Sunday, February 1, 2009

NH Theist Speaks for God... and makes about as much sense.


While religious fanatics are rare in New Hampshire, we do have a few scattered about. The following letter to the editor appeared in my local newspaper:

"I am coming to the conclusion that God made every baby for a purpose.God had a plan for us before we were even formed, so He does have a plan for every baby.He loves all of us, including the unborn.People are made in God's image, they are humans. We need to respect our fellow humans."

JON MATTHEW WXXXXXX
XX Duso Road
Winchester, NH

What Jon doesn’t get here is that his brief and no doubt heart felt letter is just chocked full of fallacies, delusion, and contradiction. Let’s dissect it:

“I am coming to the conclusion that God made every baby for a purpose.”
Jon didn’t come to any such conclusion. The conclusion was given to him by the theist doctrine that was fed to him since childhood; the very same doctrine that concluded for him that there was a god in the first place. For Jon to suggest he came to the conclusion as a result of independent thought / analysis is self deception… or intellectual dishonesty.

“God had a plan for us before we were even formed, so He does have a plan for every baby.”
Really? So spontaneous abortion / miscarriages, which represent approximately half of the abortions in the US were part of God’s plan for those babies? They were planned as what… land fill? Nice plan.

And, what exactly was God’s plan for the zygotes that became Hitler, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Pol Pot, Timothy McVeigh, the 911 terrorists, etc., etc., etc.? His plan was for them was to be born to destroy, cause suffering, pain, death, and horror? They were born as part of God’s plan to help thin the population of European Jews, gullible Christian believers, millions of innocent Cambodians, and the population of Oklahoma and NY City?

Since God knows in advance the outcome of all things, God’s plans thus must be psychopathically inspired. You’d think a sane and omniscient god would have planned better by causing those fiend babies to be spontaneously aborted. Guess not.

“He loves all of us, including the unborn.”
Well, God sure has a strange way of showing his love. I love my sons, but I don’t demonstrate that love by subjecting them to hideous and agonizing painful deaths by AIDs, Ebola, starvation, dysentery, etc. as this God seems to do to his children. They die this way by the ten’s of thousands each day throughout the third world… infants, toddlers.

These children had no “free will” to choose either their lot in life, or their religion; a merciful all knowing and loving God would recognize that, one would think. God, it seems, just loves those kids to death.

“People are made in God's image, they are humans.”
The truth of the matter is that the bible means “character” when it says “image”, as most Christian apologists / scholars will tell us. Image does not mean “form”. But more to the point, the reverse is true: Man created God / gods in Man’s image. All God’s have the same jealousy, anger, vindictiveness, and remarkable capacity for inhuman treatment toward their “creations” as man has toward his fellow man …only more so. The Old Testament testifies to that. Any subsequent divine personality changes / makeovers, are the result of Man’s doing as well.

Naturally all this would be dismissed by Jon in the usual manner of the unthinking and senseless theist apologists: “God works in strange and mysterious ways.” ; “Who are we to understand God’s plan?”; “God’s mercy in killing those children IS his love.”; "The devil made them do it!" … etc., etc., etc…ad nauseum.

So about the only thing Jon got right in his letter was his admonishment to respect our fellow human beings. One needn’t invoke a god, or imbue a bundle of embryonic cells with humanity to do that. Jon got one out of five sentences correct… 20% out of a possible 100%. In theist think that’s a passing mark.

32 comments:

Tracey said...

Maybe skydaddy intended for those aborted babies to become stem cells to cure someone of Parkinson's disease or help a quadraplegic regain use of his limbs. Maybe gooberhead is playing god by trying to prevent that from happening.
Oreo

DromedaryHump said...

Damn...good insite, Oreo!!
Old "gooberhead" (aka Jon the NH theist) may infact be working in opposition to god's will.

I bet dollars to donuts he would oppose stem cell researh as well as abortion. Very likely then that if his God existed Jon could be setting himself up for an eternity of "gnashing of teeth" in that old Lake of Fire!!!

Excellent take on this.
thanks, O.

Hump

Anonymous said...

Well, camel, as an avowed atheist, I think you make some very valid points.
I also think you and Ted Kaczynski are kindred spirits. Do you live in a shack fashioning bombs for tent revivals?
You should step out and get some fresh air occasionally.

DromedaryHump said...

Heheheh Thanks Anonymous!

Nah... I'm largely nonviolent. I leave bombings and burnings and shootings to Christians. The full extent of my anti-social acts are limited to wishing people dead, not actually truncating their life span.

Ted's obsession was a full time vocation... mine is but a hobby. Its when you don't know the differene it becomes really creepy :0

Actually I live in rural NH in a log home, on twenty acres. During the winter I get cabin fever and do start to behave a tad like Jack Nicholson in "The Shining", but I assure my wife it is only temporary...I revert back to my normal Camelian self come spring.

Thanks for your comments.

Hump

Anonymous said...

The full extent of my anti-social acts are limited to wishing people dead--camel

Well, that's a refreshing pastime for the despondent.
Do you click your heels as you make your wishes? Or do you just furl your eyebrows in order to get your mojo working?
ha ha ha ha ha
I'm just kidding you camelboy. I'm sure you're a dedicated and loyal servant to your cause. Keep up the good work. Stay vigilant. And don't forget to look under your bed before nodding off at night. There could be a pamphlet-peddling proselytizer hiding under there just waiting to pounce on you as you're reaching for the arms of Morpheus.

DromedaryHump said...

ROFLMAO!!!

:)

Anonymous said...

ROFLMAO!!!--HampshireHump

Well, I thought it was mildly amusing. But, now that I see you're so stupid you think the ridicule was directed at the idiots handing out their end-of-the-world pamphlets, I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off at you.

Beware! The Christians are coming! The Christians are coming! (aside) I can tell because their eyes are getting glassy.

"Ted's obsession was a full time vocation... mine is but a hobby. Its when you don't know the differene it becomes really creepy" --HumptyDumpty

I'll bet you creep out a lot of folks. Yes? No?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

DromedaryHump said...

anon,
actually, I as amused by your post. I had no problem interpreting it.

I'm going to venture a guess that the reason you're scared to post your real name is :

1) that you have been at the receiving end of my wrath for an idiotic post you made in another blog, or

2) because you're actually a mindless christian ass wipe. or

3) Your mom aborted you and this particular column brought back bad memories.

While I enjoy your comments, try growing a pair and using your name on your next post.

thks

DromedaryHump said...

by the way, Anon/ aka Buddha (lol)...your profile says "warrier". There is no such word .

Anonymous said...

Hmmm.
I guess not providing my name proves you aren't a sap.
Okay. I'm a mindless christian ass-wipe who was aborted by my mother.
Ooops. Looks like you're still a hebetudinous nincompoop.

Let's see. Perhaps I've been on the receiving end of your wrath for one of my idiotic posts?
Now it's ME ROFLMAOing!!!

You're a pipsqueak, humpboy. Why don't you just admit it?
You're no more of an atheist than George Bush is a Libertine. And all your ranting does is prove that you're obsessed with the notion of gods. You're so damned frightened of a SUPREME BEING that you've resorted to your own method of "whistling past the graveyard."

So, after you look under your bed for christians, tie some garlic around your neck to ward off werewolves.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Oh yea. You wanted a name.
Okay, if you're a DromedaryHump, I'm a Sv10PerenniaIII.

Your turn, DummydaryHump. Let's see some of that "wrath" you think is a match for my derision.

Anonymous said...

by the way, Anon/ aka Buddha (lol)...your profile says "warrier". There is no such word .--Humpty

Holy crap! Humpboy is getting delirious.
Break out the Drambuie. Let's enjoy a Rusty nail as we watch him spin around like a whirling dervish.-Sv10Perennia

DromedaryHump said...

Heheh..still "anon" eh? Nothing like a new age religionist to show his true colors. A level of courage that is surpased only by the absence of intellectual discourse.

right, I'm not an atheist. Ok, that makes alot of sense heheh. Albeit, a jerkwad who says they "respect all beliefs" irrespective of what those beliefs are can't be very discerning, or intelligent. I had you pegged from the start.

And obviously you lack the class to be a fine grade Beretta..LOL.

Now, start making sense,pussy!

Hump

Anonymous said...

Hey! I almost gave up on you, Humpty. I kept interrupting my porn surfing to see if you were stupid enough to reply to my posts and I thought you had run to mommy saying "There's a big bad devil picking on me!"

"Albeit, a jerkwad who says they 'respect all beliefs' irrespective of what those beliefs are can't be very discerning, or intelligent."--HumpsLittleBoys

Do you have any idea what the fuck you're talking about? I don't.
I assume you are taking various bits of stupid information from different sources to try to puff up your stature.
Personally, I have disrespect for everyone's belief system except my own.
And it isn't too difficult to see that I have 5 previous posts, here, and nowhere do I mention anything about warriors or respecting different beliefs.

Face it, dumkoft, your level of admiration on your own blog is sinking faster than an anvil with every feeble attempt you try to muster in bantering with me.

And, yes. Your self-serving embrace of atheism is as believable as Larry Craig's embrace of heterosexuality.
Perhaps if you keep shouting it in as strident a manner as possible, you might convince those devoid of a discerning eye.

P.S. I'm sorry I called you a "pipsqueak." There's no reason for me to denigrate the pipsqueaks in the world by tagging you with that label.
Forgive me?
ha ha ha ha ha ha
Love&Kisses--Sv10Perennia

DromedaryHump said...

Ah..that explains it!! Youve been so busy whackin off to porn you can't put a genuine thought together. Must have drained your boldily fluids ...heheheh. The only question now is are ya whackin off to Jesus porn, or some other god? Maybe Mary, shje's hot!!

whats good about this is, the more you post here the more activity is accrued. That I have you obsessed with me is a good thing... it proves I hit a nerve. :) I love to do that. Nothing gets a theistic fucktard more animated than insulting it's "beliefs". That I hurt you so deeply is a credit to the work I do here. Thanks for the compliment.

My guess is you are [ ] <-- this far from foaming at the mouth, and taking that shotgun to your head.
I hope in your suicide note you give me the credit.

Now.. I do enjoy your posts, and I do appreciate the volume but you really do need to assign a genuine name to them, or I just can't continue our exchange...as enjoyable as they are. Seriously, grow a pair.

Best regards,

Hump

Anonymous said...
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DromedaryHump said...

tsk tsk..still can't assign a name to the post. How unfortunate.

Ah well, so much for that.
The good news is My activity bounces even with deletions of posts :) Dog bless bloger.com!

So, as I understand it, you admit I got your goat with my postings. Oh my. That it hurts you makes my day.

Here's a thought...go visit your clergyman, you know, the one who gives you a reach around, and cry on his shoulder. Hahahaha!!!

Keep the faith!!

Hump

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DromedaryHump said...

Ofcourse I accept your apology, no need to beg, Anon.

sheesh..you theists are so sensative. If only you could keep your emotions in check, and deal with reality and head on debate instead of demonstrating your insecurities, and delusions.


Again, if I hurt you, I'm awefully glad :) Nothing says anger like a theist in a mindless obsessive rant.

Come back when you can actually engage in discourse with courage and a real screen name; and of course, when you get that schizophrenia under control. hahahh.

Dog bless ya. Regards,

Hump

Anonymous said...
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DromedaryHump said...

dear anon,
thank you for your endorsement and obsession..
without feedback from antagonized theists that are enraged and threatnened by my site, I wouldn't know how effective this blog is.

Please... tell your friends.

Hahahah

DromedaryHump said...

Hey, Anon... i see you posted at 1:00 am sunday morning!!Hmmm... i really AM keeping you from sleep.
excellent!!!

LOL

Anonymous said...

OK, camelboy, maybe you won't delete this one. You're a fraud. You know you have faith, everyone does. I do, even though I was molested by my priest when I was 12.
That' s why I dispise you and everything you stand for. Your readers know this of you, but none of them have the courage to call you out on it. But I do. Hahahah.
--Sv10Perennia

DromedaryHump said...

Anon,

Ah! Well, I understand your ranting now. Clearly you've been traumatized. But you need to learn how to keep it in check. Perhaps you should seek counseling. I wish I could extend some sympathy toward you, but alas, I have none for the theistically impaired. Lots of Christian kids are molested by the clergy, many of them use that experience to come to their senses.

I only wonder if this openness you are showing is something fleeting, symptomatic of an imbalance, subject to subsequent denial. We'll see.

Now, as for my being a "fraud", I admit it. I am NOT a genuine camel, I only play one on the internet. But most of my readership are wise to that.

As to my really having "faith", and thus being a "fraud" , sorry...you're mistaken. I was fortunate enough to have parents who didn't brain wash me and who possessed enough modernity and intellect to be free of such stupidity themselves. That this irritates you so much, that you perceive me to be "whistling past the grave yard" (a rather trite banality) as you said in an earlier comment is indicative of your theistic indoctrination, and likely the trauma / betrayal you experienced by your spiritual leader.


If you could try and overcome your instincts, and converse rationally I can continue to let your posts stand. Your previous posts add nothing to discourse and I can't give you an open platform for your mindless attacks, irrespective of your unfortunate background.

Perhaps you could even try and show me where my blogs are at fault, in your opinion; refute them rationally, maturely; show me where my logic and reason falters. But if you can't (and I don't hold high hopes for that) then in that regard you are the fraud, not I.

Well, that’s it. Hang in there.
Dog bless.

Hump

Anonymous said...
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DromedaryHump said...

well..your rationality didn't last long. As I predicted. I see your posts are becoming more agitated, more graphic. My cutting blog posts and retorts are obviouslytaking their toll.
I like that.

(listens for the sound of that shotgun action, heheheh)


That encounter with the priest, if it was true, had more than a traumatic effect, considering your professed sexual proclivities. Maybe you want to come out in a blog that can accept you for what youare.

Good luck with that.

Dog bless,
Hump

Anonymous said...
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DromedaryHump said...

Heheheh..my... youre pretending to be bisexual now? c'mon.
only a guy molested by a priest who had second thoughts about sharing it would do that.

anyway// have a good time. considering your bipolar condition this is probably as good as it gets eh?

Anonymous said...
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DromedaryHump said...

don't run away now, bipolar boy..my blogger rating is in the upper 28 percentile. Thanks!!

Hahahah

Tracey said...

Hey, Hump:
What's the possibility that Anon is ol' whazzhizbutt that closed down the original FI? There seems to be a similarity in the writing style.
Oreo

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