Thursday, July 1, 2010

For God so loved the World that he gave his creations ALS, flesh eating bacteria, and Ebola. Thank ya Jesus!!!


Christians love to invoke "free will" for all kinds of things. They say homosexuality is a choice. That god gives free will, and gays chose to be gay just like the rest of us chose heterosexuality (you remember when you chose to be hetero, right?) They have to say that. If they accept a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality it would mean that their god wanted homosexuals, that homosexuality is just as natural as can be. There can be none of that. After all, the bible says homosexuality is an abomination and god doesn’t create abominations. Q.E.D. - homosexuality has to be man’s poor use of his god given free will. End of discussion.

But what happens when Christians come face to face with conditions where free will and man’s choice cannot be easily invoked to explain away “abominations?” Why do people come down with ALS aka Lou Gehrig’s disease -- arguably the most hideous fatal genetic disease one could possibly imagine? No one chooses ALS. Nothing one does from a behavioral, ethical, or moral perspective is known to cause ALS. So if god created man in his image, and god doesn’t screw things up what does this all mean -- that god has ALS and wanted us to have it too? Or that their god creates hideous diseases to torment and torture his creations, as he tortured himself/ his son? And why -- out of love? What sane being knowingly gives someone a torturous fatal disease out of love, or for any reason?

Why did their god, who created all life, create Necrotizing fasciitis, aka flesh eating bacteria (see picture above)? Why did their god create the virus that causes Ebola hemorrhagic fever aka Ebola? These life forms cause horrible suffering and death to thousands of people every year -- no free will choice there. Is it punishment for being a third world infant? Is it retribution for some African toddler’s childish insult to a prophet or to god itself? Does god punish children to death for the free will choices of his parents? What kind of sane being punishes the innocent child for the adult's trespasses?

This problem, which cannot be explained away by free will, provokes all kinds of mental gymnastics among the pious sheep. I once had one of them tell me that such god given diseases “build character.” I came very close to helping build that cretin’s character with a pipe wrench to his head.

“Suffering of the innocent is part of a bigger plan that we cannot understand” is among the most favored platitudes / non-explanations / pious copouts / denials of logic / irrational retorts. It requires of them no analysis of the issue. It does not make them face the challenge of the paradox head on. It is escape into mindless babble to avoid what common sense screams at them from just below the surface of their enslaved minds. It does exactly what it has to do when self imposed ignorance comes face to face with reason … end of discussion.

16 comments:

NewEnglandBob said...

Apologetics is an entire industry of effort to try and explain the silliness of theistic dogma. It worked for quite a while until science became a method and began being practiced via observation and experiment. The dogma began to shrivel in retreat where evidence, observation, experimentation, logic and reason took over.

NewEnglandBob said...

Note: Posting a comment does not always well on blogger.com. When I first attempted to post ther was no word displayed to type in "word verification" and there was no checkbox for "Email followup comments to".

Dromedary Hump said...

Sorry, Bob. hopefully it's a temporary defect with blogspot

Dromedary Hump said...

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I just hope one day some fool christian tells me the reason people get ALS or anything else hideous is because it builds character!

I'll be sure to raise the question of why god allows disease and suffering over dinner. And when they tell me that getting a disease like that is somehow a good thing, my response will be: "Then you will be pleased to know that I made special arrangements for the Ebola virus to be put in the glass of water you've been drinking! Let me know how you enjoy your character building exercise jack ass!"

islandponies said...

Maria Bamford is my favorite comic who does great riffs satirizing religion. She does a hilarious routine about why she doesn't like angels. She puts on an Irish accent and says something like "I think I'll have you become paralyzed in a terrible accident so you can inspire people by painting pictures with your toes."

Analog Kid said...

One of my fav's: "god works in mysterious ways"
(I purposely never capitilize "god".)
You're post is dead on as usual...and the end of your post made me think of "Horton hears a Who". I liken the clover flower "clouds" to the haze or blockage that religion brings to the christian brain - and the clamor of the Whos within represents reasoning and free thinking, screaming to break through. Yes...all christians could use a good "YOP!!!"

Devil said...

According to Pat Robertson the reason for the Haiti earthquake was because they deserved it, because of their pact with the devil over 200 years ago. What a vengeful bastard his god is.

Rastifan said...

This reminds me of the words of David Attenborough when he was asked why he don't credit god in his nature programs.

Quote!

"They always mean beautiful things like hummingbirds. I always reply by saying that I think of a little child in east Africa with a worm burrowing through his eyeball. The worm cannot live in any other way, except by burrowing through eyeballs. I find that hard to reconcile with the notion of a divine and benevolent creator."

Dromedary Hump said...

Thanks all...dead on comments!!

DM said...

a liar to the very end, eh, hump...

Let me show you how ATHEISTS were partially responsible for 911

These ATHEISTS NEED TO BE ON THE TERRORIST WATCH LIST!

You don’t even have SCIENCE on your side…

You’re a perfect example of when PHILOSOPHY becomes an ENEMY OF LIFE...

http://stephenlaw.blogspot.com/2010/06/playing-mystery-card.html

not quite samantha with her *supernatural spit*, eh?

this isn't one of your little WORD GAMES...

blasphemy is a DEATH SENTENCE

you people actually BELIEVE the BS you preach!

GOD 1 - atheists 0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcNiD0Z3MU


Atheists,
you are ENEMIES OF GOD AND ARE GOING TO BE ANNIHILATED...

Repent and turn to God or be destroyed...

YOU HAVE NO CHOICE...

my interpretation of the STATUE FIRE... it symbolizes the SPIRITUAL DEATH of atheism...

http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/topofthetimes/national/la-naw-0616-jesus-statue-lightning-20100616,0,4295974.story

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/6/16/1276680110544/The-King-of-Kings-statue--005.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-06/54332292.jpg


http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/butterjesus-1.jpg

PRINCESS DI IS WEARING A NEW DRESS!

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/speechesandarticles/a_speech_by_hrh_the_prince_of_wales_titled_islam_and_the_env_252516346.html
______________________________
http://skepticblog.org/2010/04/06/would-i-ever-pray-for-a-miracle/

Shermer, I WANT TO SEE YOU BEG FOR A MIRACLE...
___________________
we do like your music Lady Gaga, but...

The B**BQUAKE - 911

Let me show you the FATE OF TRAITORS...

http://www.loiterink.com/photos/products/182_3424_500x500.jpg

they are incapable of telling the difference between SCIENTIFIC *FACT* AND
RELIGIOUS AND PHILOSOPHICAL *TRUTH*... FATAL ERROR!

they also preach a *VALUE FREE SCIENCE* called *POSITIVISM* that ignores the
inequalities of wealth and power in capitalist civilization...

for a sample taste of PZ Myers' GARBAGE...

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/06/sunday_sacrilege_imagine_no_he.php

HIJACKING IN PROGRESS!!!

http://hawaiiwebgroup.com/maui-design/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/website-hijacking.jpg

HIJACKING IN PROGRESS!!!

how can these HEADLESS IDIOTS BET AGAINST GOD!!!
________________________________________
what happens when you LOSE Pascal's Wager...

http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/pascals-wager.htm
____________
you FIGHT PAPER MONSTERS...

the blood and bodies of the atheist movement...

you mofos killed MICKEY MOUSE!!!!

this has more TRUTH then what Dawkins, Randi, Harris, Myers, and Shermer
combined have said in their entire lives...

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=5R2wE8Sduhs&playnext_from=TL&videos=hht1U_19anc&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh%2Bdiv-1r-3-HM

they tried to BULLDOZE the entire METAPHYSICAL DIMENSION...
they LOST THE WAR......

you have FORFEIT YOUR SOUL, shermer... you have become an object in the material world, as you WISHED...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/11792994_ffaaee87fa.jpg

we're gonna smash that TV...

They had become ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE AND OF GOD...

you pushed too much and *CROSSED THE LINE*

degenerates (PZ) or children (HEMANT) - ATHEISTS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRRg2tWGDSY

do you have anything to say, you STUPID LITTLE F*CKER?

how about I tell you, Mr. Shermer, EVERYTHING YOU THINK ABOUT THE WORLD is
*WRONG*

THE BOOBQUAKE - 911!
****************************************************
http://dissidentphilosophy.lifediscussion.net/philosophy-f1/the-boobquake-911-t1310.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek

RUN, ATHEISTS, RUN!!!
-------------------
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-information.html

the 9th and FINAL RING of Dante's Inferno is designed for little blaspheming traitors like you...


but at least FREE AIR CONDITIONING is included!

Shaw Kenawe said...

“Suffering of the innocent is part of a bigger plan that we cannot understand”

Ah yes. The old "god has a bigger plan that we cannot understand" explanation for the horror and suffering of innocents. But if god has a bigger plan, why should any of us bother with our "free will," since god's plans seem to override anything we do. And he keeps it secret so that we have to be good little nonthinking sheep believing everything will come out well.

My mother died of ALS. It was heartbreaking for her daughters to live through the suffering with her and ultimately the torment of hoping for death so that her pain would end.

Luckily for me, I had no illusion that any god had anything to do with her illness, which would have made me angry and despondent. I, and eventually my sisters, accepted it as rotten luck and nothing more.

My mother was a spectacular cook and a woman of immense goodness.

Dromedary Hump said...

Shaw,
so sorry about your Mom, and for what you and your sisters had to witness. Thanks for sharing that.
Bart

Joan said...

http://news.yahoo.com/comics/pearls-before-swine

That is a link to today's (Sunday, July 4th..if you blog late. )"Pearls before Swine" cartoon. Substitute 'God' for 'Life' and there you have it. (grin)

Strangely enough the only time I can recall off the top of my head that man questioned God directly was in the book of Job. And what did he get for it? Nuttin! Just a big roar about Where were you when I formed the universe! (..as in who are you to question me?')

Ever wonder why basic human curiosity is punished so much by God. If we were 'made in his image' then he should have a little compassion for Eve, et. all.

DM said...

FLUSH ATHEISM!

Actually it is a ROYAL FLUSH!!!

Let me show you how ATHEISTS were partially responsible for 911

Angel said...

huh. I guess DM choked or something. That was entertaining.

I gotcher crown right here, buddy!!

Anyhoo. about God and His almighty plan: It's a scam. Pure and simple. Why else would he need to make Satan? A scapegoat!! Man, what an unsought after position.

Screw the Devil-- be scared of Yahweh!

DM said...

TAM 8:

let them know if the MDC continues more people will die...

the WORLD TRADE CENTER PROPHECY - THE DANCE OF
DEATH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Hez25fFrg